Cultural Crackup: The Implosion of Conservative Talk Radio

By Professor Frank Popper
Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Rutgers University

In winter’s darkness I’ve been listening to conservative talk radio, which New York’s WABC, 770 AM, ably represents. You probably don’t listen to such stations, but you should: you’re missing out on conversations that may or not be important, but certainly can be odd, hilarious, and disturbing all at the same time. They often make TV’s Fox News look temperate. Told you should listen to them.

One star is Mark Levin, who heads a conservative public-interest law firm that in 2007 nominated Rush Limbaugh for the Nobel Peace Prize. Levin may strike you as belligerently insane because he yells a lot. Yet he’s written best-selling books on America’s decline and possible redemption through five new constitutional amendments. Simpatico state legislators met in December at Mount Vernon to talk about how to enact them through state constitutional conventions, a process the Constitution allows. Sean Hannity calls him “The Great One,” and the name has caught on among his fans.

Mark Levin at the Americans for Prosperity Defending the American Dream Conference. Photos taken at the Americans for Prosperity Defending the American Dream Conference on November 4 and 4 2011.

Mark Levin at the Americans for Prosperity Defending the American Dream Conference on November 4 and 4 2011.

Levin seems intellectually more tightly coiled than Limbaugh or Hannity, presenting himself as “a constitutionalist conservative.” The other night, mining his writing, he screamed that American liberals “reject the Enlightenment and Enlightenment values.” The proof: “they hate the free market.” (Deep waters, huh?) Naturally, the way they breathe in and out, liberals support Obamacare and its ancestors like Social Security. Levin’s on the board of AMAC, an older-person’s group created to oppose the American Association of Retired People (AARP). AMAC’s ads on his show say that AARP is the only reason Obamacare passed. You didn’t know that, right? You need to get out more.

Levin’s concept of the Enlightenment was, let’s say, unusual: it was only economic/financial. Adam Smith was it. Levin went on in this nonsensical vein for maybe half an hour, never mentioning other Enlightenment ideas such as the rights of man, , the primacy of science, the spread of knowledge. and what we today term transparency in government. It was a characteristic set of omissions: they don’t concern him and his peers, plus the audience they influence. When they take calls, they frequently browbeat, interrupt, insult, or hang up on all but the most adoring callers. Maybe it’s a manhood thing. When I’m done, you can leap to the radio.

The blindness to big chunks of the modern (and postmodern) political/cultural sensibility, and to common courtesy, hugely hurts Levin, other right-wing radio hosts, their constituents, and their cause. It keeps them from reaching perhaps 85% of the American public, including many Republicans and conservatives. Levin bellows that figures like John Boehner and Mitch McConnell are “French conservatives,” sellouts, and corporatists backed by the US Chamber of Commerce. The remaining 15%, his target audience, often show economical educations and abundant rage. One furious yet servile caller thought Chicago was America’s largest city, dumbfounding even Levin.

This overall approach, including its whacked-out notion of the Enlightenment, limits conservative populists’ ability to influence, let alone persuade, the larger American society. It keeps them underrepresented in the modern versions of the professions the Enlightenment spawned, fields like law, diplomacy, medicine, architecture, engineering, journalism, science, art, social criticism, and the other disciplines that today mostly require university educations. For all its faults, contemporary higher education is itself an Enlightenment creation, Shut out, or more precisely shutting itself out, of many of today’s most significant enterprises, Levin’s brand of conservatism reacts by turning in on itself, losing touch with the outer world, and embracing unlikely conceptions of reality. It doesn’t get out of bed in the morning. It sounds trapped, isolated, and, if you listen close, despairing. Its weird bluster pushes toward paranoia and then far past it.

So on talk radio Pope Francis becomes a Marxist. Obama is a socialist Kenyan Muslim pacifist dictator who cleverly pushes “soft Communism.” The EPA wants to destroy American farming, ranching, logging, mining, and maybe fishing but no question the oil and natural gas industries and the power companies. Obamacare and its czarina, “Baghdad Kathy” Sebelius, have nothing to do with health or insurance. Instead they seek to deprive Americans of their liberty. Most Americans are barely holding on to it anyway. If Obamacare doesn’t enslave enough people, its proponents will come up with worse measures. My money’s on making everyone bicycle to work.

Was Barack Obama born in the US? On top of being a Nazi Communist, the President apparently wasn't even born on this continent. (Source, Wikipedia User Victor Victoria)

Was Barack Obama born in the US? On top of being a Nazi Communist, the President apparently wasn’t even born on this continent. Taken in 2010.  (Source, Wikipedia User Victor Victoria)

One learns yet more. George Soros and Ted Turner run the media, and Soros bankrolls other leftists too. Environmentalism is “the green scheme,” the coinage of a rising young WABC crazy who on Sunday nights broadcasts “investigative radio” from Jerusalem. The six-month agreement with Iran is an American Munich. Hillary is probably gay. Europe and the UN are both over. Civil servants do nothing, definitely nothing well, aside from the military, which does everything , invariably well. The Obama Administration wants to federalize law enforcement, education, the Internet, the stock market, and banking, then give them to the do-nothing civil service.

The prime facts about New York’s new mayor is that his wife used to be a lesbian (see, it’s spreading) and is still black. Disability laws are scams. Racism has disappeared except to those who exaggerate it. Drones and surveillance cameras mean we’re becoming an East Germanish police state, with the NSA as the Stasi, only more impersonal and intrusive.

And so on, far into the night. Literally: weeknights from midnight to 5 AM, WABC runs “Red Eye Radio,” featuring two hosts with grating laughs who have to fill up all that time, unlike Levin’s and Limbaugh’s mere two or three hours. (The station’s schedule changes a lot.) It’s hard to host a talk show that runs at least an hour daily. It takes dedication, which all these guys have. And because they’re all guys but for Laura Ingraham, perhaps the next big national conservative national talk-show host will be a hostess. I prefer the maternal-sounding (but only –sounding) Pittsburgh aspirant to her perky hard-knocks Bakersfield rival.

Talk-radio conservatives don’t have and maybe don’t want or care about the cultural flexibility and political give to move beyond their Tea Party 15%. Thus their self-constraints persist. Their congressional favorites have the power to block and annoy, but little more. Their national candidates can’t win any large place north or east of Kentucky, or on the West Coast. They’re starting to have problems in Colorado, Florida, and New Mexico and may eventually have them in Texas. The long-term national demography makes them nearly futureless except in rural America. They’re falling out of the national dialogue, a demotion that merely inflames them, depresses them further. Losing a culture war has to feel terrible. And because it’s cultural, it happens in public.

From a secular-liberal university perspective, the conservative cultural crackup can be fun to watch if you have a strong stomach. Once these people had a place in the American mind. Two decades ago they thought that hip-hop signaled a nervous breakdown in black and youth culture. Now they’re losing their own grip. Their vengeful far-right populism, even more than most other populisms, can’t lead to much. Gloating at the miseries of conservative talk radio is not quite the right response. Compassion, perhaps its least favorite word, comes closer.

Frank Popper, PhD (Faculty Board of Advisers, Humanist Chaplaincy at Rutgers
Frank-PopperFrank J. Popper teaches land-use planning and its political and cultural implications in the Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy at Rutgers University, where he also participates in the American Studies, Geography and Political Science Departments and the School of Arts and Sciences’ Honors Program. Together with his wife Deborah E. Popper, he originated the Buffalo Commons as a concept for the land-use, environmental and natural-resource future of the American and Canadian Great Plains.  Anne Matthews’ book about the Buffalo Commons, “Where the Buffalo Roam” (1992), was one of four finalists for the 1993 Pulitzer Prize for nonfiction.  Click here to hear Professor Popper discuss some of his research on important recent changes in American Growth.

9 responses to “Cultural Crackup: The Implosion of Conservative Talk Radio

  1. Your concluding sentence is particularly interesting, seeing how a Chronicle of Philanthropy study published in 2012 ( determined that the ‘red states of the Bible Belt and Utah’ give substantially more to charity than blue states. Here’s a short Huff Post piece about it:

    By the way, Rush Limbaugh (don’t worry, I dislike him as much as the next guy) donated nearly 2.1 million dollars to the Marine Corps–Law Enforcement Foundation in 2007 (money he got off an eBay auction) and then half a million dollars to Leukimia charity in 2008.

    Maybe compassion wasn’t the correct word after all.

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    • The article only addresses quantities given and not motivation for giving.

      Here’s a HuffPost article on motivation. It isn’t Red vs Blue States, but it does compare a somewhat close correlate of atheist vs religious. Conclusion and title of the article: Religious Ppl are Less Driven by Compassion Than Atheists/Agnostics.

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      • But surely inclination toward one behavior or another isn’t a substitute for the actual act? The stats still stand about who’s donating the most: it’s the most religious states.

        Also, the HuffPost article I linked to is implicitly making the case for political motivation (or at least that there is some connection between religion, political bend, and donation rate) by pointing out red vs. blue states in the first place, no?

        I’m by no means denying the religious factor here. Merely pointing out that calling conservatives (even the fringe ones) uncompassionate is rhetoric (the bad kind), and not based in reality. No evidence for that claim whatsoever.

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        • Popper’s comment was about compassion. Some people donate out of compassion and other’s out of guilt, or duty (like tithing).

          It could be the case that religious states and ppl donate more (and they certainly do). But THAT they donate does not say WHY they donate. You haven’t shown they give because of compassion (and they don’t, or at least are less often motivated by such than the non-religious).

          The reason religious ppl give more is based on what social psychologists call “channeling factors”. I’ll leave it at that for now.

          I’d also recommend Jonathon Haidt’s book The Righteous Mind. He’s written a lot on moral psych and how it plays with US politics. Look at the “harm” line in the graph in the link. As conservatism increases the importance placed on harm as morally important decreases. For liberals only harm/compassion is important.

          Contrary to what you think, conservatives and the religious are far less MOTIVATED by compassion and issues of harm than liberals and non-religious, even though they give more.

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  2. Oh, “French Conservative”…that’s a new one! I’m guessing that will be rebranded as “freedom fries” once were in a masterwork of rhetorical performance art!

    But anyway, the modern conservative reflex of “… shutting itself out, of many of today’s most significant enterprises” is significant. Levin’s audience do not want measured critiques of current and proposed policy, and they certainly don’t want to consider any possible benefits these might have. Take the healthcare debate – wherein many are actually “debating” whether or not human beings deserve basic health care. Listening to criticisms in popular media, I find that this goes beyond the desire to pick and choose who’s morally sound enough to receive “our tax dollars”. In the mad rush to condemn such insidious enterprises as keeping the populace from dying of toothache and flu, I see, like Popper, a nearly self-destructive undercurrent from popular conservative supporters: “….if you listen close, despairing. Its weird bluster pushes toward paranoia and then far past it.”

    This is disturbing enough from radio hosts, but what does it say about their audience? How many people are being riled up by this despair, listening to it constantly, and what will they do with that stimulus? I hope it will burn itself out, but I think we’d do better to watch carefully and counter that message whenever possible instead of waving it away.

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